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In Conversation with Nathalie Nahai

In Conversation with Nathalie Nahai

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Welcome to In Conversation with Nathalie Nahai (formerly known as The Hive Podcast), the series that enquires into our relationship with one another, technology and the natural world. Join me as we dive into the complex and challenging questions of our time, and explore how some of the greatest minds are forging new and exciting paths forward. For more resources and information about the show, please visit nathalienahai.com/in-conversation/All rights reserved Economie Sciences sociales
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    • 154. The Search For Meaning, Creativity & Distinctiveness In An Age Of AI / Dr Tomas Chamorro Premuzic
      Jun 28 2025

      In today’s episode, I speak with Dr. Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic - Chief Innovation Officer at ManpowerGroup, Professor of Business Psychology at University College London and Columbia University, co-founder of deepersignals.com, and an associate at Harvard’s Entrepreneurial Finance Lab.

      Tomas is the author of 12 books, including Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders? (and How to Fix It), upon which his TED talk was based, and I, Human: AI, Automation, and the Quest to Reclaim What Makes Us Unique, and his next book (out this fall) is Don’t Be Yourself: Why Authenticity is Overrated and What to Do Instead – the link for which is in the shownotes below.

      An international authority in people analytics, talent management, leadership development, and the human-AI interface, Tomas’ commercial work focuses on the creation of science-based tools that improve organizations' ability to predict performance, and people's ability to understand themselves. Having previously held academic positions at New York University and the London School of Economics, and lectured at Harvard Business School, Stanford Business School, London Business School, Johns Hopkins, IMD, and INSEAD, as well as being the CEO at Hogan Assessment Systems, Dr. Tomas has written over 200 scientific papers on the psychology of talent, leadership, innovation, and AI, making him one of the most prolific social scientists of his generation.

      Over the past 20 years, Tomas has consulted for a range of clients across financial services, advertising, media, consumer goods, fashion, government and intergovernmental organizations. His media career comprises over 200 TV appearances, including on the BBC, CNN, TED, and Sky, and over 300 features in Harvard Business Review, the Guardian, Fast Company, Forbes, and the Huffington Post.

      SUMMARY

      In this conversation, Nathalie Nahai interviews Dr Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic about the impact of AI on creativity, authenticity, and the future of work. They discuss the dangers of over-reliance on technology, the need for critical thinking, and the importance of maintaining human connection in a digital age. The conversation highlights the evolving nature of creativity and the potential inequities that may arise from AI advancements, ultimately questioning what it means to be human in an increasingly synthetic world.


      WEBSITES

      https://www.drtomas.com/

      deepersignals.com

      BOOKS & RESOURCES

      Don’t Be Yourself: Why Authenticity is Overrated and What to Do Instead - Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic (https://amzn.to/3FVAVV4)

      Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders? (and How to Fix It) - Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic (https://amzn.to/3G2Poys)

      I, Human: AI, Automation, and the Quest to Reclaim What Makes Us Unique - Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic (https://amzn.to/4kPKc05)

      TED Talk: Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeAEFEXvcBg)

      CHAPTERS

      02:50 Exploring Authenticity in a Digital Age

      05:50 AI and the Future of Creativity

      08:59 The Paradox of AI Dependence

      11:53 Human Complexity vs. AI Limitations

      14:54 The Impact of Technology on Society

      17:49 The Counter-Trend of Digital Fatigue

      20:49 The Role of AI in Job Automation

      23:50 The Future of Work in an AI-Driven World

      31:20 The Future of Work and AI's Role

      37:50 Cognitive Overload and Information...

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      1 h et 7 min
    • 153. On Interbeing: AI, Synthetic Relationships & The Cosmic Unconscious / Dr Aaron Balick
      Jun 14 2025

      Today I have the absolute pleasure of being in conversation with a very dear friend, Dr Aaron Balick. A long-time companion of the podcast, Aaron is an internationally recognised psychotherapist, keynote speaker, author, and business and media consultant who applies depth-psychology to help people better understand themselves, business, and culture in the digital age.

      Specialising in the psychological impact of technology, AI, and social media, Aaron translates complex ideas into accessible insights for professional development, leadership, and business transformation.

      With over 20 years of clinical and academic experience, he’s one of the most scintillating, thought-provoking and wise thought-leaders I’ve encountered in my many years on the speaker circuit. He’s a sought after keynote speaker, renowned for his poignant and actionable insights about how we meet and grow through our challenges, understand human relational dynamics, and navigate the myriad ways in which technologies are shaping our inner and outer lives.

      A trusted media contributor and long-time collaborator with the BBC, Aaron also has a regular psychology column at GQ and his broadcast work includes the BAFTA-nominated Suicide and Me, BBC Radio 1’s The Surgery, and Radio 4’s The Moral Maze and The Digital Human. His insights have been featured in The Guardian, Wired, Newsweek, and beyond.

      SUMMARY

      In this conversation, Nathalie Nahai and Dr Aaron Balick discuss the complexities of the global human psyche, exploring themes of fear, the impact of AI on therapy, and the nature of synthetic relationships. They discuss the challenges posed by technology in human connection, the polarization of society, and the need for economic and social change. The dialogue also touches on the importance of interpersonal relationships, the search for meaning in discomfort, and the role of myths in navigating contemporary challenges. Ultimately, they emphasize the necessity of grounding oneself in reality and fostering genuine connections to navigate the complexities of modern life.


      WEBSITES

      https://www.aaronbalick.com/

      https://www.linkedin.com/in/draaronb/

      https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/profile/aaron-balick


      BOOKS & RESOURCES

      The Little Book of Calm: Tame Your Anxieties, Face Your Fears, and Live Free – Dr Aaron Balick (https://www.aaronbalick.com/books)

      The Psychodynamics of Social Networking: Connected-up instantaneous culture and the self – Dr Aaron Balick

      (https://www.aaronbalick.com/books)

      The Trading Game: A Confession – Gary Stevenson (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/727417/the-trading-game-by-gary-stevenson/)

      CHAPTERS

      02:18 The Impact of AI on Therapy

      05:28 Navigating Polarization and Media Influence

      08:13 The Role of Community in Addressing Loneliness

      11:15 The Dangers of Synthetic Relationships

      14:25 The Importance of Pain in Growth

      17:18 Philosophical Perspectives on Free Will and Relationships

      29:57 The Nature of AI Relationships

      30:52 Human Consciousness and Algorithms

      33:33 Exploring the Unconscious Mind

      37:35 The...

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      1 h et 1 min
    • 152. Is AI Coming For Your Job? Human Agency & The Future Of Work / Adam Hawkins
      May 31 2025

      In this episode, I speak with Adam Hawkins – a Recruitment Industry Advisor, Strategic International Sales Leader and Non-Executive Director at LinkedIn.

      A strategic thought leader and keynote speaker, Adam partners with the recruitment industry to shape talent solutions that augment opportunities on offer for workers in a dynamic, fast-changing world.

      With 25 years of experience in executive roles across the full recruitment and talent ecosystem, Adam has advised on strategy, served on company boards, and led international high-performing teams across diverse global markets. Having joined LinkedIn seven years ago as an industry champion, Adam supports recruitment clients to deliver greater value in hiring, learning, and employee engagement alongside the world's largest professional network.

      In his current role, he works to inspire and influence the future of talent by embracing new technologies and bringing people together to drive powerful dialogue as the industry shapes the road ahead.

      SUMMARY

      In this conversation, Adam Hawkins and Nathalie Nahai explore the rapid transformation driven by technology, particularly AI. They discuss the anxiety professionals face due to the pace of change, the role of AI in augmenting human tasks, and the importance of maintaining human agency in an increasingly automated world. The conversation also highlights the tools available for enhancing productivity, the essential human skills needed for the future, and the common mistakes organizations make in adopting AI. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for a balanced approach to technology that fosters creativity and human connection while navigating the challenges and opportunities presented by AI.

      WEBSITES

      LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamlawrencehawkins/


      AI TOOLS

      · Glean (note taking study tool) - https://glean.co/

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      · Otter (for meetings, transcripts, summaries) - https://otter.ai/

      · Google Notebook LM (summaries, note taking, research) - https://notebooklm.google/

      · Gamma (design presentations, websites, social media posts) - https://gamma.app/

      · HeyGen (AI video generator) - https://www.heygen.com/



      CHAPTERS

      00:49 The Global Human Psyche and Transformation

      05:09 Anxiety in the Age of AI

      09:59 The Role of AI in Work and Creativity

      19:03 Tools for the Future: Embracing Technology

      31:04 Finding Balance: Human Skills and AI Integration

      32:23 Human-Centric Skills in a Tech-Driven World

      37:18 Navigating Mistakes in Technology Adoption

      43:02 The Importance of Workforce Strategy and Reskilling

      49:11 Balancing AI Use with Human Capabilities

      01:01:30 The Future of AI: Opportunities and Risks

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      1 h et 8 min

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