We always have a lot to discuss when we get together.

Gary and Mark have Monica Barrios on this episode. Monica is the diva of Outdoor Education in Western North Carolina. She is the executive director of Inside Out which works with schools and other groups across from across the Southeast.

Check out her company at: https://www.insideout-inc.com/

And here's the link to her packaged programs that anyone can do anywhere: https://adventuregamestogo.com/

Check out this feature article about Monica in "Shoutout Colorado." https://shoutoutcolorado.com/meet-monica-barrios-outdoor-adventure-education-specialist

Check out the YouTube Version of this Episode at: https://youtu.be/QfTcyGu3tGE

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Music licensed through Audiio.com: "Slow Down" by Kyle Church "Pass It On" by Jones Island "Snow" by Matthew Wright

DeeDee has been the Director of Security (and Insecurity) since the earliest days of the Gary & Mark Podcasting University. She recently found herself in a financial pickle. Gary has come up with a possible solution.

And from there we talk with Mike Reeves, Board Chair of the Saluda Historic Depot & Museum in Saluda, North Carolina. Mikes tells us how the train came to be in Saluda and how that turned the town into a destination.

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Mike Reeves