Samara chats with the groundbreaking psychologist and author of the new book How You Say It: Why You Talk The Way You Do—and What It Says About You, about what Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s changing accent tells us about human nature, how Hugh Laurie betrayed us, and the accent YOU have. As Katherine says, the language you use and the sounds you make are “so critical to feelings of identity, when you speak, you let a little bit of yourself out, for the world to interpret.” And sometimes, all hell breaks loose. From what went down at the trial of Trayvon Martin’s killer to how you yourself may very well judge a foreign accent, this conversation is about what the studies reveal about ourselves, and about what we can do about it. Enjoy this final episode for a while!

Host: Samara Bay

Executive producers: Catherine Burt Cantin & Mark Cantin, Double Vision doublevisionprojects.com

Producers: Samara Bay, Sophie Lichterman and the iHeart team

Theme music: Mark Cantin

Samara on IG: @samarabay

Cat on IG: @catburt & @doublevisionprojects

To sign up your kids for a study or learn more about Katherine’s work, visit: dsclab.uchicago.edu

 For Katherine’s book: indiebound.org/book/9780544986558

 For Adrienne Maree Brown’s book: indiebound.org/book/9781849353267

 For the full clip with Rachel Maddow: youtube.com/watch?v=yjP2k3dyq48

 How RBG found her voice: time.com/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court/

 The linguistics of Rachel Jeantel: ideas.time.com/2013/06/28/rachel-jeantel-explained-linguistically/

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Samara chats with the California congresswoman who resigned in November—about how to actually run for office, the politics of politics on Capitol Hill, and what it was like to weather a very public shaming—and how to write and deliver a speech in the midst of it. With lots of swearing and free-flowing rosé, this is a bit of a departure from the rest of Katie’s press tour for her new book, She Will Rise: Becoming a Warrior in the Battle for True Equality, but permission to speak, amirite??

Host: Samara Bay

Executive producers: Catherine Burt Cantin & Mark Cantin, Double Vision doublevisionprojects.com

Producers: Samara Bay, Sophie Lichterman and the iHeart team

Theme music: Mark Cantin

Samara on IG: @samarabay

Cat on IG: @catburt & @doublevisionprojects

Katie on Twitter: @katiehill4CA

Katie’s book: indiebound.org/book/9781538737002

AOC quote: twitter.com/AOC/status/1133383123503321090

Kamala & Sarah Cooper **MUST WATCH**: youtube.com/watch?v=QfU7O2ghg3k

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Samara chats with the award-winning reporter and producer of Dolly Parton’s America about ALL the delicious behind-the-scenes on the hit pod series with Jad Abumrad, plus finding her own voice on the mic, the superpower of being okay with being hated, and how to land a kickass money ask.

Host: Samara Bay

Executive producers: Catherine Burt Cantin & Mark Cantin, Double Vision doublevisionprojects.com

Producers: Samara Bay, Sophie Lichterman and the iHeart team

Theme music: Mark Cantin

Samara on IG: @samarabay

Cat on IG: @catburt & @doublevisionprojects

Shima’s latest projects: wnycstudios.org/people/shima-oliaee

Quote from: diannahardy.com/

Michaela Coel’s speech: youtube.com/watch?v=odusP8gmqsg&app=desktop

Virgina Woolf’s A Room of One’s Own: indiebound.org/search/book?keys=a+room+of+one%27s+own

Anna Deavere Smith’s Talk to Me: indiebound.org/book/9780385721745

Alain de Botton quote from this gorgeous pod episode: howtofail.podbean.com/e/alain-de-botton-c19/

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