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My gosh did we have fun chatting with Lauren Camilleri.

Lauren is a creative director and designer who approaches everything from the premise that design can have a positive impact on the world. With a bachelor of interior architecture, she has worked at the likes of Inside Out, Vogue Living and Belle, where she has been the creative director since 2021.

Lauren is one of the co-founders of Leaf Supply, the go-to hub for all things botanical. Along with her business partner Sophia Kaplan, they have published five absolutely gorgeous and informative books over the years, collectively selling over quarter of a million copies. Their most recent title Outside In is a beautifully photographed homage to the connection between thoughtful design and the natural world. Lauren lives, works and tends to her indoor jungle on the lands of the Gadigal People of the Eora nation in Sydney.

We're drinking Ochota Barrels 'Botanica of the Basket' wine and it's a delightful little brew with a beautiful story. We're chatting indoor plant care, Emily being a wine guru, sunflowers for chickens, the lovely Anenome. Maddie also butchers the cucumber sandwich story. Emily has a new dog, and has researched perennial leeks. Maddie's hoping that her crack at Poh Ling Yeow's Mama's bao isn't beginners luck because it was DELISH.

--This episode is proudly sponsored by Bush Mits. We each bought a pair of these last year and have barely taken them off. They're UPF 50+ for the ultimate sun protection. They're fingerless AND have reinforced palms so you can do all the tough and fiddly jobs. We've discovered they are a saviour in the garden / on the zero turn / out with the cows / even hanging out the washing. Enjoy 15% off Bush Mits' beautiful range by using the promo code AG15 when purchasing from bushmits.com--

We're having a good old yarn today with Holly Wainwright. Holly is not a professional gardener. She is a writer, editor and podcaster who recently made a sea change, moving outside of a city for the first time in her life which has given her the space (mental, not necessarily geographical) to take on what she describes as her first true hobby... gardening. And boy is she glad she found it!

Holly is the Executive Editor at Mamamia and a familiar voice on Mamamia Out Loud as well as her new podcast MID. Holly’s fifth novel, He Would Never, is set for release in April 2025. Holly credits Therapy Lettuce for its positive impact on her mental well-being. Holly lives, writes and gardens south of Sydney on the lands of the Jerrinja and Wandi-Wandandian people, on the Yuin nation with her partner, Brent, and their two teenage children.

--This episode is proudly sponsored by Bush Mits. We each bought a pair of these last year and have barely taken them off. They're UPF 50+ for the ultimate sun protection. They're fingerless AND have reinforced palms so you can do all the tough and fiddly jobs. We've discovered they are a saviour in the garden / on the zero turn / out with the cows / even hanging out the washing. Enjoy 15% off Bush Mits' beautiful range by using the promo code AG15 when purchasing from bushmits.com--

You'll often hear us mentioning our friend Emma Bowen in these episodes. Well we finally got her in to record an episode. Emma is the founder and former CEO of the not-for-profit Pocket City Farms in inner city Sydney. Her vision saw a former lawn bowls club transformed into a market garden, events space, education hub and vital part of the broader community bringing clean, organic food to the people.

In 2020, Emma, her partner Zag and their two young kids made the move to Tasmania’s Huon Valley, settling on a 50-acre former apple, apricot and cattle farm. Emma has plans to establish a permaculture orchard while maximizing the diversity of the farm.

Emma is passionate about the transformative power of farms and gardens and the immeasurable value they bring to our physical and mental well-being as individuals and communities. Alongside her farm work she is a permaculture garden designer and community project consultant (check out her work here) and operates two gorgeous airbnbs on her property.
We're utilising what's in the garden (and the back of the pantry) and we've made a Cucumber and Basil Mezcalita! We're talking about chicken coops, Emily's new Wandotes, Middleton Fair's Scarecrow Competition, Geums, Twitch Grass, three sisters planting Julia Ostro's almond and plum cake from Good Cooking Everyday (back to back Ostro recommendations! For good reason though) and much more.

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